I used to go for all the interviews during my Job search, to learn.
Be it Functional testing, Automation, Test Lead or a QA Manager.
Once, it was for an ‘Automation QA’.
Me: Hey, Hello.
Me: Where do you work? And in the automation profile?
He: I work nearby only. Yeah! Automation team.
Recruiter: Please take this written test. The first round.
He: Are you getting it?
Me: Yeah! Trying my best…
He: Chalo yaar! I am leaving. Not getting it.
Fake it till you make it 😛 OR
Richard Branson – ‘If somebody offers you an amazing opportunity but you are not sure you can do it, say yes – then learn how to do it later!’ 🙂
Some organizations recruit for Automation and then assign manual functional tests. Some candidates fake Automation to clear the interview, and then learn. What matters is – ‘getting things done’.
What do you think?
Note: Always attend all the interviews, if possible. You never know other candidates are faking it more than you 😉
David Evans | Founder of 6 Questions
I’m not Test Automation expert – barely a neophyte. I’m a manual tester through and through. I learn by doing, but I’ve never been in a position to learn on-the-job by someone with the scripting skills and patience to help me before the trainer wheels come off.
Alasdair Moore | Director Of Operations at Intelligent Delivery Solutions
This is terrible advice. Surely it is better to learn the skills and ensure you can actually do what you say can, rather than taking an approach of deceiving your potential employer / could be employer with false information.
Organizations are employing you, believing you have the skill sets you say you have, not the ones you say you have but actually don’t. The organization that is potentially employing you, will need you to hit the ground running and to get automation going to ensure improvements within their business Occur and gain a quicker ROI as well as building up assets, not only are you letting the company that employees you down, you are also letting the team you work with down.
Automation testing like most roles are not for everyone. It needs a certain level of mind set and technical ability. There is something called “honesty in the best policy and the above post is not following this at all.” If this mindset you are undermining and destroying the integrity of those who train hard, learn and can actually do what they say they can. As well as costing organization time and money on automation that you can’t deliver.
You wouldn’t ask an electrician to come and repair your boiler would you?
Sorry to disagree Aladair, I don’t think any client or employer expects a new contractor or employee to hit the ground running from day 1 unless that has been stipulated as a requirement of the role.
Agree with your comments. But there is so much buzz around automation now that people faking automation in a nice and likable manner, do get tagged as automation engineers and then the real thing begins. It also depends on leadership vision and whom they want.
Face to face tests are difficult, as are online/ remote assessments taken in your own time. I don’t think it’s always possible or necessary to look for and take just role you know you are 100% capable of doing from day one. No reasonable client really expects that.
Try to tell them what they want to know in the tests and assessments, then quickly get on to the real task of getting to understand the role and giving them time to get to know the real you, and to assess whether you could fit in and learn to add value to the client’s project. As you say, you can learn quickly on the job if you have the ability to learn new, related skills.
James Briers | Delivery Solutions Director at Intelligent Delivery Solutions
This has to be the worst approach to seeking employment that I have ever heard! Richard Branson’s statement is in context with striving for more and bettering yourself in an area that you have some foundations in. He isn’t advocating that you deceive a potential employer.
As an employer, I am all for people wanting to progress in fact we encourage and support this with all of our employees. I would rather that you turned up for an interview and was completely honest and state that you aren’t at the right level, however, you are keen to learn and gain the skills required. I would support anybody with this level of integrity. If you made it through the interview process and I discovered that you had been deceitful then I am afraid that you would be shown the door very quickly. Be honest and you will get the support from your future employer and colleagues!
Praveen Adidamu | CSM® ITIL® KPMG – Data Analytics | Functional & Test Automation
I like the discussion, I would say as long as he clear and prove that he is better than the actual automation guy, I would take him in my team. Because of his confidence, can do attitude and I could feel his motto to prove we are happy for the performance. And yes, organization takes automation and make them work on functional due to not having immediate automation role.
Chandramauleshwar Shukla | Snr Quality Analyst
I do not stand by it even for 1%.What company does is their ethic and what you do is yours. Company is temporary but your profile remains with you always. If you can learn a technology after joining the organization then you can learn it even before appearing for interview. If you are faking a profile and getting a job in that profile then certainly you are not going at right place. Smart interviewer will not hire you.